Sunday, July 8, 2012

Raw Milk vs Pasteurized Milk

My family has switched to raw milk recently. There are several reasons for our switch, including our desire to support local farmers and the increased nutritional value. I found this chart today and I found it very interesting so I wanted to share. he attached article is a little scary, linking all sorts of problems like developmental disorders and learning problems to soy milk and formula. My daughter was born with a severe milk allergy and was "failing to thrive" on breast milk (probably because she couldn't hold it down for more than a few minutes). She would probably have died in a time before soy milk and soy formula so I have mixed emotions about this information and the use of soy formula. However, I will say that she has difficulty with memory and some learning issues. Something to think about...



What do you think about this information? Do you buy raw milk for your family? If you aren't sure where to find raw milk locally, search for local farms on www.localharvest.org and even contact them via email to find out what they offer and how to buy from them. 

23 comments:

  1. We debated switching a few years ago and ended up not doing it. It's something I tend to look into every couple years.
    How is the taste- I'm rather concerned my littles won't take to the change.

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    1. The taste is much better actually. I didn't care for milk before except as an ingredient in something else. Now I will pour a small glass and drink up! It's sweeter and richer tasting.

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    2. I agree, raw milk tastes much better than store bought milk - it's almost like a desert, but not too sweet :)

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  2. Here's my problem - they talk about all the good stuff. But, never do you hear about all the bad things that can happen from unpasteurized milk. The amount of food borne illnesses is just crazy. My husband has gastric disease and there is NO WAY that I would ever risk it. He won't even risk raw honey. I realize that there are conspiracy theorists out there - but we didn't start pasteurizing milk for no reason.

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    1. I understand if your husband has to be careful. And I understand why we started pasteurizing. But getting milk from a farmer you have a relationship with who grazes their cattle with lots of space and only milks healthy cows...well their is so little risk and the reward outweighs the risk in my opinion. We don't have gastric disease.

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    2. We actually started to pasteurize because the turn of the century idiots started raising cows commercial and feeding the slop that ended up with the having constant mastitis. They also lived in horrid filthy condition even worse then you see videoed by activists. THAT is why.

      He might want to look into GAPS diet. that is said to be able to help a lot of gastric problems

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    3. Completely wrong. Your relationship with the farmer means nothing. Healthy cows carry E. coli and Salmonella bacteria. There is a ton of risk from drinking raw milk and NO established scientific benefits. Those "enzymes" you're touting? Humans can use cow's enzymes. And the lymphocytes, macrophages, and neutrophils from cow's milk are also unusable in human beings. There are currently six children in the U.S. who suffer from kidney failure from drinking raw milk.

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    4. Meant to say human beings canNOT use cow's enzymes.

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    5. Here are some tables of outbreaks from raw and pastuerized milk products including a table of illnesses from milk from cow's kept on pasture.

      http://realrawmilkfacts.com/outbreak-tables

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    6. I feel like the tone of this conversation is unfriendly and, while I love a good debate, I had no intention of starting an argument. I do not agree with everything in the article necessarily, which is why I made a comment about it being a little scary, but I do love my raw milk and I firmly believe in its safety. I researched well before making a decision to switch. Pasteurized milk may still have its own benefits, but in a list of pros and cons... the raw milk purchased locally from a local farmer who uses only grass fed pastured cattle wins from so many standpoints. Anyone is entitled to disagree. But please do so politely!

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    7. I agree, it is really important to make sure you know the conditions of the cows and milking process used if you are going to consume raw milk. I love the stuff, and can't wait until I can afford to start using it with our family, but the plain fact is that if you are simply skipping the pasteurization and homogenization processes without improving the lives and environment of the cows in question, you risk health issues. Thankfully, most dairy farmers who provide raw milk are very careful about this, as there are severe legal penalties for those who practice unsafe methods and sell raw milk. Anyway, I can't wait :)

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  3. We just cut dairy out of our diet in February so right now, coconut and almond milk are what we drink.

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  4. There is a =significant= difference between unprocessed (raw) milk intended for human consumption and factory-farmed milk that was =intended= to be pasteurized before drinking! I would NEVER recommend drinking unpasteurized milk from conventional dairies.

    Mark McAfee, owner of California's Organic Pastures Dairy, explains it like this: "Organic Pastures contracted with BSK labs in Fresno to perform multiple challenge and recovery tests on our raw milk and raw colostrum. When 7 logs (10 million counts) of pathogens were added to one-milliliter samples of organic raw milk they would not grow. In fact they died off. The salmonella was so badly out-competed that it could not be found less than 24 hours later. The listeria drop was less dramatic and was similiar to the E. Coli O157:H7 samples that were studied, but they also did not grow and declined substantially over time.

    The lab concluded: “. . . organic raw milk and colostrum do not appear to support the growth of pathogens. . .” See http://www.realmilk.com/safety-raw-milk.html for more information.

    --Robert Hayton, Santa Clara, CA

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    1. Thank you for this info, Robert! I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me.

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  5. I am in SC. SC law regarding raw milk: "Unlawful for anyone without a permit to manufacture, sell, or give away raw milk. Must be clearly labeled as raw with statement indicating milk has not been pasteurized. Farms must be inspected prior to production and every 3 months after production begins. Bacterial count < 10K/mL, coliform < 10/g, zero presence of pathogenic organisms." These are not feedlot cows and they newer deadlier strains of E.coli are turning up in cows that have been heavily injected with antibiotics on feedlots.

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    1. Thank you!! YES - approved dairies that provide raw milk are HEAVILY inspected, and the chances of disease are low. More concerning, actually, are farms that just keep cows and do under the table milk sales. Sure, some or even most of them (debatable) may be perfectly fine, but I have personally been on several that do not practice clean methods and risk infection.

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  6. We only drink dairy milk if I can make it to the farm. We started drinking coconut milk and then began soy milk a few weeks ago after I found out Silk doesn't use GMO soybeans. My kids only really drank milk with cereal, or if it had chocolate in it. I breastfeed until at least age three, as long as the kids want to, so none of them drank milk as infants or toddlers. They eat plenty of yogurt and a little cheese. The kids won't eat cereal with coconut milk but thats a win/win since even organic cereals are just junk food. My oldest daughter does love raw milk. As far as the "scary" facts about raw milk, most are falsified. E. Coli is more common in peanut butter and broccoli than in raw milk.... Here is an entry I posted recently about switching to organics...

    http://www.realhoustonhousewife.com/2012/06/can-you-really-just-switch-to-organics.html

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  7. interesting read - thanks for sharing

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  8. MY KIDS ONLY DRINK ALMOND MILK WHILE MY HUSABND AND I ONLY DRINK ORGANIC SKIM MILK. Is there a difference in the taste of pasterized vs. non-pasterized?

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    1. Just this week, for the first time, I had the opportunity to purchase some low temperature pasteurized milk direct from the farm. The cattle are grass-fed and pastured and the milk is still whole so the fat rises to the top like the raw milk. I think it tastes just as good, although (maybe it's my imagination?) I think this milk is a little less rich than what I have been getting from the other farmer. Maybe it's a normal difference in the breed of cows? Not sure.

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  9. Thank you for posting this article :) I am eager to switch to organic raw milk, and am hoping in the mean time to find organic milk at a store somewhere around here (still new to the area) that has something better to get us by.

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    1. I hope your situation changes soon so that you can have more choices :)

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